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    Deconstructing Creation From the Ending


    "Streamed live 78 minutes ago by R Wayne Steiger

    Today we stop to review what we have learned so far from the Liber Lilith which by any definition has been eye opening. As we begin to conclude the study we need to stop here and reflect as to what has been revealed, what is about to be revealed and most importantly what should we expect if anything going forward. "

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    Interesting guy .
    Anti God and anti religion . He tells us that the supposed good books are all actually recipes for cooking ourselves . We are food for others .
    You think I am mad ? Listen to the last 10 minutes .
    Then look at the You Tube Chat Replay rolling comments . Apparently they love this guy . Worship him .

    You read about guys who fall out with God and turn the other way . And end up worshipping the Devil .
    Hope Robert Wayne Steiger isn't one of them .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christopher View Post
    Interesting guy .
    Anti God and anti religion . He tells us that the supposed good books are all actually recipes for cooking ourselves . We are food for others .
    You think I am mad ? Listen to the last 10 minutes .
    Then look at the You Tube Chat Replay rolling comments . Apparently they love this guy . Worship him .

    You read about guys who fall out with God and turn the other way . And end up worshipping the Devil .
    Hope Robert Wayne Steiger isn't one of them .
    Giving up the idea of a god seems to follow a waking up to how conventional religions fool us all the time. When we ask ourselves what love is shown to a a son whose father would put him to death, at the same time saying, for the saving of our sins. No father would do that, which thought is compounded by the realisation that the world is full of misery.

    Giving up conventional religion does not stop me being deeply religious and confirming the existence of God who is not jealous, as the conventional gods are.

    RWS owns up to having been a satanist who left that cult when he woke up.

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    In Christianity God sacrifices himself --- the Trinity . It is far more than the Son --- which is just one aspect of the Godhead . The Trinity is the essence of the Christian mystery .
    And to then suggest that individuals are themselves Gods and can therefore create is untrue . Though if I ever hear of a person stopping a Volcano with the shake of a finger , I might be forced to reconsider .

    All of that type of thinking smacks to me of something that is a watered down and easy to live version of a something profoundly complex .
    So it does not surprise me that RWS found it far too demanding and switched sides .
    Regardless , I doubt Satanists ever change or are allowed to . It is a contract of soul .

    Incidentally I have no religion but I did take an ancillary course in Comparative Religion ( as then titled ) alongside my BA Hons . And my grand father became an ordained minister in the C of E in mid life after a top science career -- worked in Rutherford's Lab .

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    But the fact is, Christopher, when understood how insane the world actually is, how can we possibly acknowledge that the doctrines forced into us are true. We all think, so it is correct (imo) that we are more powerful than any doctrine claims us to be. We know we create through thought. I could go on and on.

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    But the fact is, Christopher, when understood how insane the world actually is, how can we possibly acknowledge that the doctrines forced into us are true. We all think, so it is correct (imo) that we are more powerful than any doctrine claims us to be. We know we create through thought. I could go on and on.

    I absolutely agree with your start point -- which is effectively that Religions should only be working hypotheses and that few have stood the test of time in terms of their usefulness and overall benefits .Christianity seems to be a prime example of that , though in fairness Jesus was against the creation of the formalised early church which his older brother James plus know - all Paul were largely responsible for .

    It is at that crossroads that politics becomes a living reality , simply because people have to live and work in tandem and the creation of some sort of hierarchy is necessary and impossible to avoid . And it is at this very point that argument then rages incessantly --- how do you best treat people in terms of opportunity , fairness and justice when the last thing they exhibit is equality in terms of talent , disposition and judged usefulness ..

    There is this apparent unsolvable dichotomy :-
    the need to exist in groups if only for self preservation -- to construct hierarchies
    the desire to not be totally governed by those very hierarchies and allow other views full expression , and most of all , the expression and maximisation of assumed individual potential .

    After that comes madness --- our species in action .

    And what we have not yet learned , imho , is that the evils of totalitarianism are exactly matched by the evils of its opposite , socialism . The two spectrum extremes .
    And that the specifics of Satanism , for example , are just a different type of extreme totalitarianism .

    In summary , we see with relative ease what is bad and undesirable but we have no idea how to go about substituting anything which works much better , however hard we try .
    I have ideas on that aspect but I will mumble them to myself in private .

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